Yang Berbahagia,
Encik Hazem Abdul Rahman
MD ,
Land Rover Malaysia/ Sime Auto Concessionaire
Land Rover Malaysia/ Sime Auto Concessionaire
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Yang Berbahagia,
Major [rtd] Hasbullah bin Zakariah
Manager, Service dept,
Land Rover [Malaysia ] Sdn Bhd
Sirs,
I was at Land Rover Malaysia last Sunday, trying out your beautiful Defender double cab 90 under the watchful eyes of Miss Shilah.
I was actually there to book Land Rover Single Cab 110 on special offer but was told by this young lady that all have been snatched up like 'goreng pisang' by the East Malaysians! My God ! These people paid cash mostly, just like the Cameroon Highland vegetable farmers!
I was already forewarned by Major Hasbullah some 3 weeks earlier at Sime Darby Medical Centre, but did not take his warning seriously.
My interest in the ageless Defender is beyond 'sales and purchase' actually. We are a group of intrepid over 60 year olds, Malay Collegians, partly mad 'boy scouts',out to relearn the world, so to speak. [ http://translandjourney.blogspot.com/2012/07/diary-when-it-all-began.html ]
Initially in our discussion, we were thinking of doing it either in an old 1985 onwards Defender 110,[ probably refurbished Series 1] with the ever dependable TDi engine ,or the conquering ageless 4.2 litre 1996 or less, Toyota Landcruiser. Both for the obvious reason that if we developed engine trouble in the desert of Mongolia or China our hearts would not 'bleed' if local fellows cannot repair them,. We just leave the vehicles there and hopp on to the other one. And if they can, and we expect any Ah Kow can repair these two, we will happily carry on.
But we being' British' thought that we owe Defender more loyalty than a 'cheapo' old Japanese badge, albeit the old unbeatable beast,Toyota Landcruiser..... Defender, despite it's smaller cc, it has more character though.
And why use old 1980's and 1990's old vehicles when we can use new ones with more sophisticated more powerful engines, less guzzly and can debunk at the same time this fallacy amongst long distance 'translanders' that 'newer means more electronics and electronics means trouble on a long transland journey'. We have to give our fledgling motor 'industry' a bite at fame !
Our choice as to whether to go Toyota [ Hilux in this case, the new 3.0 turbo diesel double cab ] or to still remain true to our original spirit and sentiment and be 'British', despite the ' general' world trend towards 'de-romanticized' transdland journeys, and be practical, and thus join the bandwagon of every Tom , Dick and Harry, all going 'Japanese'.. this to my mind is still still not yet concluded. We are still discussing the pro's and con's
We symphatise with you guys at Sime's Land Rover over the Mindef's uncharacteristic decision to go ' all Chinese' [ my God, Chinese !!!!!! ] in their vehicle of choice for the army 2013 onwards.
We symphatise with you guys at Sime's Land Rover over the Mindef's uncharacteristic decision to go ' all Chinese' [ my God, Chinese !!!!!! ] in their vehicle of choice for the army 2013 onwards.
These generals must have all their heads examined !!
Too much kwaey teow maybe ??
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNvs3YDBgeM&feature=related ]
Too much kwaey teow maybe ??
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNvs3YDBgeM&feature=related ]
I look forward to further fruitful conversations with you guys.
Your Humbly,
Dr Hj Nik Isahak Wan Abdullah
Senior Consultant Cardiologist
Sime Darby Medical Centre
Subang Jaya
Selangor, Malaysia
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from grand pa of Jubileeintan 69 :
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
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Grand pa , tell us more about Discovery Tdi, what year, reliability and is it Ah Kow proof , I mean easily repaired any where devoid of sophisticated 'electronics' like the Series 1 Land Rover ?
What year and what price ?
Nik Howk
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from grand pa of jubileeintan 69 group :
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركات..............................................................................
from grand pa of Jubileeintan 69 :
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Go for it Doc Nik Howk. Even if they offer reconditioned Defender Tdi 110 Stationwawons or reconditioned Discovery Tdi would be wonderful
'car wash utube', click down here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzEDY7P8Vps&feature=related
'car wash utube', click down here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzEDY7P8Vps&feature=related
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Grand pa , tell us more about Discovery Tdi, what year, reliability and is it Ah Kow proof , I mean easily repaired any where devoid of sophisticated 'electronics' like the Series 1 Land Rover ?
What year and what price ?
Nik Howk
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from grand pa of jubileeintan 69 group :
The Discovery does all the Defender does but in luxury. A brother in law used one , I merely borrowed a few times. I did mention Nik Ariff uses one for umpteen years now.
click here:
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across the board i heard it has its problem with 'reliability', grand pa ............
the choice can be quite personal grand pa as judged by this video,
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo3ud2ysh0I&feature=related ]
nik howk
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Nik Howk,
If I were you I would like to travel in comfort.
You have not seen the new Ford Ranger Truck, 3.2 litre turbo diesel.
Superkiasu like Malek Noor and miles of space. Sexy too !
They will cause a storm in Kuala Lumpur end of this year.
Can forget about Defender or Hilux.
Pak Chu
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across the board i heard it has its problem with 'reliability', grand pa ............
the choice can be quite personal grand pa as judged by this video,
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo3ud2ysh0I&feature=related ]
nik howk
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Nik Howk,
If I were you I would like to travel in comfort.
You have not seen the new Ford Ranger Truck, 3.2 litre turbo diesel.
Superkiasu like Malek Noor and miles of space. Sexy too !
They will cause a storm in Kuala Lumpur end of this year.
Can forget about Defender or Hilux.
Pak Chu
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howk,
we have discussed the rangka of the route. there are various combinations. now we need to zoom in go to next level. do we want the easy/difficult route? farflung/shortest? touristy? etc. this decision will impact on the duration, expense, type of vehicle, mental prep, bekal etc. and the sooner we work out this the better.
anyway the possibilities:
1. kl- either via west coast ie phuket and ranong or east coast via surat thani -hua hin - bangkok (thailand)
2a bangkok-chiang rai -luang namtha (thailand/laos petronas route) or
2b bangkok - udon thani-luang pabang -luang namtha (thailand laos route recommended by nazru)
3.luang namtha - jinghong - kunming- guiyang -xian - lanzou -anxi (china)
4a anxi -hami- osu -almaty (if we want to enter kazakhashtan to meet besan ntr) or
4b anxi- hami - aksu- kashi (if we want to by pass besan ntr and enter kyrgyzstan) or
4c anxi- qiemo - yulian -kashi (enter krygyztan via south route). all a, b and c done or partly done by petronas.
......
and the above is only about a quarter way. jenoh nak tulis all the various options. it is best that we meet and pour over the map
w.a
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Peng,
we take the toughest, most romantic, longest route.
with accent on safety of course
Now Pak Chu though has thrown a spanner in our planning, Peng.
i thot we have decided amongst us that we choose either a toyota [ new hilux or old landcruiser ]or a defender...now this new animal called the ford truck, i know nothing about it.
personally i have gone thru 2 hilux in the last 6 years...., one a double cab which i sold off last year..a find a wee bit softy, the undercarriage long shaft broke after less than 2 years plying the hills of gua musang. ! i am now driving a brand new working man single cab, manual. too early to say anything but if i were to go by its popularity amongst the chinese contractors in gua musang, it is a tough work horse. the tray at the back can be changed to a proper sleeping area, if you can cross over to golok or haadyai and add a long canopy....after the canopy, the workman vehicle look like an 'suv' !
ample space for storage of 'barang2' and good sleeping area. put in a 'bedpan' for those emergencies, we already have a caravan for 2.
peng, can you please check out with your 4wd friends familiar with this new animal called the ford ranger truck 3.2 turbo diesel. is it here already ?
nik howk
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from Doc Azman,
22nd July
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Nik Isahak Abdullah <drnikisahak@hotmail.com> wrote:
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ok, meet aftrer raya then.
insyaAllah we will get to further than phuket, to istanbul at least
salam, wp
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Peng,
i am proposing that we drive back from london via spain turkey, syria, iran, pakistan, india and if burma is open via burma , if not ship back from chitagong, bangladesh....all in a 3 month to 4 month journey.............
i think the new ford ranger or the new hilux 3.0 litre turbo would be tough and comfortable enough to withstand the continous journey.
insyaallah !
Nik Howk
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Peng,
we take the toughest, most romantic, longest route.
with accent on safety of course
Now Pak Chu though has thrown a spanner in our planning, Peng.
i thot we have decided amongst us that we choose either a toyota [ new hilux or old landcruiser ]or a defender...now this new animal called the ford truck, i know nothing about it.
personally i have gone thru 2 hilux in the last 6 years...., one a double cab which i sold off last year..a find a wee bit softy, the undercarriage long shaft broke after less than 2 years plying the hills of gua musang. ! i am now driving a brand new working man single cab, manual. too early to say anything but if i were to go by its popularity amongst the chinese contractors in gua musang, it is a tough work horse. the tray at the back can be changed to a proper sleeping area, if you can cross over to golok or haadyai and add a long canopy....after the canopy, the workman vehicle look like an 'suv' !
ample space for storage of 'barang2' and good sleeping area. put in a 'bedpan' for those emergencies, we already have a caravan for 2.
peng, can you please check out with your 4wd friends familiar with this new animal called the ford ranger truck 3.2 turbo diesel. is it here already ?
nik howk
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from Doc Azman,
22nd July
Aswt,
Nampak bersungguh puak ni nak travel, jalan3.
Just back from Tapah & Ipoh for 2 night trips.
Ohhh, sakit badan weh, specially backpain.
East-west highway at night, raining, saw 5-6 cars masuk parit tepi jalan. Nothing serious. Ada yg tow truck sedang tarik.
On one road, not a very close corner & at 60km/hr, my car slipped & swerve a few times.
Before that I was traveling at 80km/hr constantly, you still can feel the tyre gripping the road fine.
I think these people put oil on the road. If only only it is not raining, I would have stop and check the road for oil.
Wallah waalam. Just to remind the extend trick that people do to get business.
Doc Azman
V69 S'H, iPhone4
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from Peng,
23th, July
howk & bab
is the meeting on 27th on? after tarawih? perhaps in ramadhan it is better to meet daytime if at all, say sat or sun after zuhr/before asr?
from the book: long way round, chasing shadows accross the world, by ewan mc gregor and charley boorman who rode round the world , just them and 2 motorbikes:
"i...gazed out at the ocean and thought back to the day when charley and i had sat in a little workshop in west london, surrounded by motorbikes, with dreams of open road in our heads. all we knew then was that we wanted to get from london to magadan (pacific coast of siberia). with maps laid out in front of us, we drew a route, arbitrarily assigning mileage to each day, not knowing anything about the state of the roads.. we guessed our way from west to east, across two continents, from atlantic to the pacific....time and again we were told by experienced travellers that our plans were wildly optimistic and that we didnt know what we were letting ourselves in for. i'd never ridden off-road and charley had never properly camped. the chances of failure were high they said. yet here we were in madagan, as far around the globe as it was possible to go, and we'd arrived one day ahead of our schedule"
salam
wp
is the meeting on 27th on? after tarawih? perhaps in ramadhan it is better to meet daytime if at all, say sat or sun after zuhr/before asr?
from the book: long way round, chasing shadows accross the world, by ewan mc gregor and charley boorman who rode round the world , just them and 2 motorbikes:
"i...gazed out at the ocean and thought back to the day when charley and i had sat in a little workshop in west london, surrounded by motorbikes, with dreams of open road in our heads. all we knew then was that we wanted to get from london to magadan (pacific coast of siberia). with maps laid out in front of us, we drew a route, arbitrarily assigning mileage to each day, not knowing anything about the state of the roads.. we guessed our way from west to east, across two continents, from atlantic to the pacific....time and again we were told by experienced travellers that our plans were wildly optimistic and that we didnt know what we were letting ourselves in for. i'd never ridden off-road and charley had never properly camped. the chances of failure were high they said. yet here we were in madagan, as far around the globe as it was possible to go, and we'd arrived one day ahead of our schedule"
salam
wp
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Nik Isahak Abdullah <drnikisahak@hotmail.com> wrote:
peng, let meetafter ramadan. we have alot of time.
like charley, i do not like to plan tooo much...just get in your car and drive....worse case scenario, reach phuket can turn back if things do not appear right.good case scenario we may even take another route back from london to kL via the kyber pass on our way back.......
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ok, meet aftrer raya then.
insyaAllah we will get to further than phuket, to istanbul at least
salam, wp
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Peng,
i am proposing that we drive back from london via spain turkey, syria, iran, pakistan, india and if burma is open via burma , if not ship back from chitagong, bangladesh....all in a 3 month to 4 month journey.............
i think the new ford ranger or the new hilux 3.0 litre turbo would be tough and comfortable enough to withstand the continous journey.
insyaallah !
Nik Howk
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